I couldn't stomach this Watchtower study. As someone with depression and low self esteem who can still tell an injustice and other negative events or occurrences for what they are, I didn't like how the study dumped most of it on YOU, the one who believes and perceives he was wronged. Shut up and don't say a bad word about the Organization, trust in Jehovah and remain loyal. Kind of reminded me of the injustices made regarding child abuse and how congregants are told to shut up, not talk negatively and wait on Jehovah patiently, talking only to the elders but nobody else.
Isambard Crater
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Watchtower Study June 18 from April 2017 issue
by BluesBrother inhttps://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/watchtower-study-april-2017/judge-of-all-earth-always-does-what-is-right/.
the judge of all the earth always does what is right.
intended as a confidence builder in the organization ..see what you think.. theme is from deuteronomy but it is really highlighting that passage in genesis where abraham had a dialogue with god, (gen.18) would god destroy sodom if 50 righteous men would perish?
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Disfellowshipped for being complicit in someone else's sin - really?!
by Isambard Crater ina close friend of mine who is pimo (only staying in for family reasons) in a neighboring congregation called me in tears tonight saying her dad (elder) is telling her he is seriously considering reporting her to her local elders and she could get disfellowshipped.. the reason?
because she is complicit in a gross sin, according to him, by going with her best friend (not a j.w.
) when the friend had an abortion.
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Isambard Crater
It's a small town where everybody knows everything.
We all became friends after attending depression and anxiety counselling together a few years ago.
All this emotionally damaging trauma created by the Father and Elders is the last thing any of us need, but the straw and rafter really does apply to this Organization.
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Disfellowshipped for being complicit in someone else's sin - really?!
by Isambard Crater ina close friend of mine who is pimo (only staying in for family reasons) in a neighboring congregation called me in tears tonight saying her dad (elder) is telling her he is seriously considering reporting her to her local elders and she could get disfellowshipped.. the reason?
because she is complicit in a gross sin, according to him, by going with her best friend (not a j.w.
) when the friend had an abortion.
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Isambard Crater
A close friend of mine who is PIMO (only staying in for family reasons) in a neighboring congregation called me in tears tonight saying her dad (elder) is telling her he is seriously considering reporting her to her local elders and she could get disfellowshipped.
The reason? Because she is complicit in a gross sin, according to him, by going with her best friend (not a J.W.) when the friend had an abortion. The friend who had an abortion is registered blind and suffers from PTSD so could hardly travel 2 hours and 30 miles to the clinic on her own, and she had nobody to support her, so my PIMO J.W. friend went with her.
Ok, abortion is murder in the view of many religious folk, but my PIMO J.W. friend strongly felt that her vulnerable friend needed support at this emotional time. Little did she know it could get her DF'ed. Her dad tells her that even if she doesn't get DF'ed, he and her mom still won't talk to her much because they think her accompanying her friend to the clinic was grossly wrong.
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If Christians are required to be willing to die for one another, the ransom wasn't such a big deal, because...
by Isambard Crater in...jesus was raised 3 days later to a wonderful position in the heaven and now reigns as king, apparently.
but if a christian died for a fellow believer, which they regularly tell us from the platform that we should be prepared to do, the person who gave their life would be 'dust' for goodness knows how long, with an unknown future hope.. if someone asked me to die a painful death to save millions of people, knowing i would feel great in a few days' time, i'd probably do what jesus did too..
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Isambard Crater
...Jesus was raised 3 days later to a wonderful position in the heaven and now reigns as king, apparently. But if a Christian died for a fellow believer, which they regularly tell us from the platform that we should be prepared to do, the person who gave their life would be 'dust' for goodness knows how long, with an unknown future hope.
If someone asked me to die a painful death to save millions of people, knowing I would feel great in a few days' time, I'd probably do what Jesus did too.
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Possible to watch the Chelmsford Bethel update video online
by Isambard Crater ini saw it at the meeting this week and was horrified at how corporate and commercial it was, plus all the tourism stuff like kids getting photos with caleb and sophia, so wondered if it's possible to download or at least view again online somewhere?.
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Isambard Crater
Is there anywhere it can be viewed online? I want to see it again and save it.
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Today's Watchtower; if GB say celebrity adulation is wrong, why do they pose for pics and sign autographs?
by Isambard Crater insays it all really.
total hypocrisy once again..
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Isambard Crater
Says it all really. Total hypocrisy once again.
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Possible to watch the Chelmsford Bethel update video online
by Isambard Crater ini saw it at the meeting this week and was horrified at how corporate and commercial it was, plus all the tourism stuff like kids getting photos with caleb and sophia, so wondered if it's possible to download or at least view again online somewhere?.
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Isambard Crater
I saw it at the Meeting this week and was horrified at how corporate and commercial it was, plus all the tourism stuff like kids getting photos with Caleb and Sophia, so wondered if it's possible to download or at least view again online somewhere?
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BBC Radio 4 feature on J.W child Abuse
by Isambard Crater inon the radio this morning.
here is the link:.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08njt79.
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Isambard Crater
On the radio this morning. Here is the Link:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08njt79
UK people can download the audio.
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BBC Radio 4 feature on child Abuse
by Isambard Crater inon the radio this morning.
here is the link:.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08njt79.
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Isambard Crater
On the radio this morning. Here is the Link:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08njt79
UK people can download the audio.
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Today's W.T on GB not being inspired is having ZERO impact on most J.W's
by Isambard Crater inthe congregation i attend had it's watchtower study on thursday night because of l.d.c work this week-end, and another congregation i have some not very spiritual friends in had their watchtower study on wednesday.
from what i have delicately prised out of people, the congregations loved the watchtower study this week, saying it was so encouraging and all the usual stuff, with no-one seeming to realise the g.b.
said they're not inspired, so the spirit int he past has moved them to teach wrong things, and all the other ideas excellently summed up on reddit.. today's watchtower will wash over the heads of most j.w's like it never even happened, the all remaining as loyal as ever, and it makes me so, so sad..
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Isambard Crater
The Congregation I attend had it's Watchtower study on Thursday night because of L.D.C work this week-end, and another Congregation I have some not very spiritual friends in had their Watchtower study on Wednesday. From what I have delicately prised out of people, the Congregations loved the Watchtower study this week, saying it was so encouraging and all the usual stuff, with no-one seeming to realise the G.B. said they're not inspired, so the spirit int he past has moved them to teach wrong things, and all the other ideas excellently summed up on Reddit.
Today's Watchtower will wash over the heads of most J.W's like it never even happened, the all remaining as loyal as ever, and it makes me so, so sad.